Proposal talk:Car access tag

motorcar vs car

wikipedia redirects from "motorcar" to "automobile" and says "An automobile, motor car or car is a wheeled motor vehicle used for transporting passengers", so isn't that what "motorcar" is supposed to be anyway? i think the problem is, that the information on the access page is just wrong. the text "motor vehicles with more than 2 wheels/more than 1 track" should be the description for "Double-tracked" and not "motorcar". further the other transportation modes (hov, goods, ...) should be on the same level as motorcar and not under it. that is how i structured it in my access proposal for example: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/access_restrictions_1.5

also i'm not sure about the 3.5 t limit. is that the restriction in every country on this planet? -- (unsigned comment from flaimo at 15:15, 3 May 2011)

The 3.5t limit is specific to my example and is not part of the proposed description. To make sure the proposal is clear in this regard, I've added specific verbiage for updates to both the access=* and the [Map features] pages. ––Stefan Bethke 21:54, 3 May 2011 (BST)

i'm for solution 1: change the meaning of the tag. i'm pretty sure that most of those 200000 tags were used to represent an actual car anyway and not as the abstract definition. otherwise i can't imagine why nobody complained in the last two years. --Flaimo 20:23, 5 May 2011 (BST)

As expanded on talk-de I am opposing the introduction of car. Having motorcar and car for different entities would only confuse people and be not helpful. IMHO automobile, motorcar and car are all synonyms for automobiles. If we need a generic term for 2-tracked motorized vehicles, let's invent another tag. Let's revert the wiki to what it stated before the disputed amendments were made, which unilaterally changed the meaning of motorcar (on the access-page, actually on the motorcar-key-page there is still a description that this key is only about cars).--Dieterdreist 15:19, 9 May 2011 (BST)