Proposal talk:Practitioners

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Duplication

Resolved

A few users on the community forum have expressed concern over duplicate Value for tags such as operator=* and owner=* overlapping with this proposal.

If operator=* is used for the company, there will be an overlap and redundancy between operator=* and practitioners=* for “sole proprietorships” or “partnerships”. This causes a question of whether to fill in both.
Kovposch, RFC in the Community Forum

I’ve been using owner=* a lot for the names of the practitioners whose nameplates are posted at professional offices, as well as name=* when the owner’s name serves as the name of the establishment, and operator=* when the owner has formed an organization of any sort to operate the business.
Minh Nguyen, RFC in the Community Forum

Community input is valuable and I see this as a potential overlap, however the practitioners=* proposal is written in such a way that the tags are complimentary and may reflect a practitioners dual or multiple roles within a node way area relation even if the Value is the same. I am open to further discussion on this topic but will mark this as resolved for the time being unless further discussion continues. -- GA Kevin (talk) 01:41, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Count Subtag

Resolved: Added to proposal.

Possibility of adding practitioners:count=* with a Value of a whole numerical digit. Such a tag would describe the number of practitioners in a given node way area relation which is different than the established capacity=* which is more total population allowed in a node way area relation. -- GA Kevin (talk) 01:41, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

I forgot there is a general staff_count:*=* Proposal:Healthcare_2.0
—— Kovposch (talk) 19:25, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Unicode Value Character Limit

Resolved: Known potential restriction.

In the elements documentation, there exists a technical character limit of 255 characters for all key and Value. This also applies to semi-colon delimited lists so there exists a potential issue where a node way area relation has a large list of practitioners=*, exceeding the technical limit. The proposal subtags practitioners:primary=* and practitioners:support=* aim to mitigate this by providing 2 Value fields for a total of 510 characters. This should be sufficient for most needs, but community comment is welcome on other solutions to this, using semi-colon delimited lists or not. -- GA Kevin (talk) 02:08, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Clarifying Secondary Practitioners

Resolved: Proposal updated.

Minh Nguyen in the community forum brought up a concern surrounding the proposed practitioners:support=* tag. Specifically, despite a warning in the rationale, some users may use the proposed field as a list of staff rather than a list of primary practitioners and their understudy or apprentice. The following suggestion was made:

I’d suggest choosing an example that better illustrates the need for tagging “secondary” practitioners, such as a law firm’s partners and associates. I’d also suggest finding a more concrete example with a demonstration of the sources a mapper could realistically use to obtain this information.
Minh Nguyen, RFC in the Community Forum

Would changing the wording to apprentice, understudy, or inductee make more sense or would the community advocate for the removal of a distinction with a knowledge of the limitations on character length also discussed here? -- GA Kevin (talk) 19:08, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

@GA Kevin: No, tagging apprentices would exacerbate the issue. We aren't making an org chart. – Minh Nguyễn 💬 20:24, 11 January 2025 (UTC)