Proposal:Animal crossing

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Tag:hazard=animal_crossing
Proposal status: Draft (under way)
Proposed by: overflorian
Tagging: hazard=animal_crossing
Applies to: node
Definition: A road sign warning the possibility of domestic or wild animal crossing
Statistics:

Rendered as: France road sign A15b.svg
Draft started: 2015-06-04

Proposal

I propose an animal crossing sign to be described as hazard=animal_crossing.

I think that hazard=name_of_the_animal should be avoided. The hazard tag should be more generic because sometimes it is hard or even impossible to identify exactly which animal could cross the road.

Example of tags I propose to avoid:

This proposal is consistent with a previous discussion about hazard, and an other one (in French) on the talk-fr mailing list.

What this is not

Most of the time the danger displayed by the sign applies to a section of a road. Therefore this section could also be and should be tagged with hazard=animal_crossing. Nevertheless my proposal aims to describe the sign itself as an independent element and is NOT about a way.

I think it worth describing the sign independently because:

  1. there is currently very few hazard=animal_crossing signs. Adding a simple node is an easy way to contribute and a good quality step to achieve. Once the data is correctly mapped on this node, it is easy to tag the section of the road without having to come back on site.
  2. the sign itself worth to be mapped. It is a precious information for describing reality but also for routing (e.g. "turn left after the next animal crossing sign"). Moreover, some local communities begun to map them massively, for example in Finland.

I am aware than the information should be mapped twice with this proposal (once on the sign, once on the road). I don't think it's a problem but quite the opposite, I think it's precious information for quality assurance.

Objects

This tag should only apply to nodes: by definition a sign is always a very precise spot.

Tagging

Where to map the sign node

I propose the signs should be mapped as an independent element and not be part of the road way.
No relation should be used.
to be detailed

The related tags for hazard=animal_crossing would be the following ones:

highway

The hazard=animal_crossing tag is not self sufficient to identify a road sign. It could be used for example on a natural park or on a road.

Therefore traffic_sign=* should be used to identify a road sign. to be detailed

traffic_sign

Some signs can be identified by a unique reference so animal_crossing=wild should be used.

A complementary local id could be used as a complement, such as traffic_sign=COUNTRY_CODE:reference

E.g. : France road sign A15b.svg would be traffic_sign=FR:A15b

to be detailed

species

to be detailed

traffic_signals:direction

to be detailed

position

to be detailed

distance

to be detailed

Rendering

There is no international consensus and a huge amount of different signs for animal crossing.
It seems fair to create a sign by animal, that is the only way to render correctly the real danger.

Here is the table of standard European signs:

  Austria Belgium Czech
Republic
Denmark Estonia Finland France Germany Greece Hungary Iceland Ireland Italy Netherlands Norway Poland Russia
&
Belarus
Slovakia Spain Sweden Switzerland Turkey Ukraine United
Kingdom
Domestic animals Gefahrenzeichen 13a.svg Belgian road sign A29.svg Czech Republic road sign A 13.svg Denmark road sign A27.svg EE traffic sign-177a.png Dario.svg France road sign A15a1.svg Zeichen 140-10.svg Traffic Sign GR - KOK 2009 - K-18.svg Hungary road sign A-023.svg Iceland road sign A11.36.svg Ireland road sign W 151.svg Italian traffic signs - animali domestici vaganti.svg Nederlands verkeersbord J28.svg Norwegian-road-sign-146.4.svg Znak A-18a.svg RU road sign 1.26.svg Dopravná značka A17.svg Spain traffic signal p23.svg Sweden road sign A19-3.svg CH-Gefahrensignal-Tiere.svg Turkish road sign 36.jpg Ukraine road sign 1.35.gif UK traffic sign 548.svg
Wild animals Gefahrenzeichen 13b.svg Belgian road sign A27.svg Czech Republic road sign A 14.svg Denmark road sign A26.svg EE traffic sign-178.png
Moose hazard
Finland road sign 156.svg
France road sign A15b.svg Zeichen 142.svg Traffic Sign GR - KOK 2009 - K-19.svg Hungary road sign A-024.svg Iceland road sign A11.38.svg Ireland road sign W 153.svg Italian traffic signs - animali selvatici vaganti.svg Nederlands verkeersbord J27.svg Norwegian-road-sign-146.3.svg Znak A-18b.svg RU road sign 1.27.svg Dopravná značka A18.svg Spain traffic signal p24.svg Sweden road sign A19-2.svg CH-Gefahrensignal-Wildwechsel.svg Turkish road sign 37.jpg Ukraine road sign 1.36.gif UK traffic sign 551.svg

UK sign should not be used as the driving side is left side and a majority of people on the planet drive right side.

Therefore as a first step I suggest to use one of the most common / generic signs of the list above:

  • France road sign A15b.svg for wild animals
  • France road sign A15a1.svg for domestic animals

Dedicated website PanneauxBiche.com

PanneauxBiche is a website rendering hazard=animal_crossing on a worldwide map.

"Panneaux biche" literally means in French "deer's sign". Its goal is to render all animal crossing signs with a different icon for every species.

Examples

Signs Tags Comment

Cusset - D 995 PK 4 Passage animaux sauvages.JPG

hazard=animal_crossing
animal_crossing=wild
highway=traffic_sign
position=right
traffic_signals:direction=forward
distance=7

Even if it looks like, this french sign isn't specifically about a deer. Therefore the tag species=* should not be used.
It is a general warning concerning all wild animals, so we use animal_crossing=wild instead.

UK Hazard Sheep.JPG

hazard=animal_crossing animal_crossing=domestic
highway=traffic_sign
species=ovis aries
species:en=sheep
species:fr=mouton

QC - Elchwarnschild.jpg

hazard=animal_crossing
animal_crossing=wild
highway=traffic_sign
position=right
traffic_signals:direction=forward
species=alces alces
species:en=moose
species:fr=élan
distance=1.5

Panneau de signalisation, Chili.jpg

hazard=animal_crossing
animal_crossing=domestic
highway=traffic_sign
position=right
traffic_signals:direction=forward
species=vicugna vicugna
species:es=vicuña
species:fr=vigogne

Coye-la-Forêt - Panneau migration amphibiens.jpg

hazard=animal_crossing
animal_crossing=wild
highway=traffic_sign
position=right
traffic_signals:direction=forward
genus=rana
genus:fr=grenouille
genus:en=frog

Frog is not a specie but a a genus. Therefore genus=rana should be used instead of species=rana

--Overflorian (talk) 02:34, 4 June 2015 (UTC)