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'@@ -1,9 +1,9 @@ {{Proposal page -<nowiki>|</nowiki>name = Grab rails (take 2) +|name = Grab rails (take 2) |user = Pietervdvn -|key = <!-- The key of the proposed new tag, if relevant --> -|value = <!-- The value of the proposed new tag, if relevant --> -|type = <!-- node, way, area, relation --> -|definition = <!-- A short, clear definition of the feature or property which the new tag represents --> +|key = grab_rail:left; grab_rail:right; grab_rail:behind +|value = yes/no +|type = node,area +|definition = A grab rail is a support to help persons with reduced mobility or a motoric disability. It helps them to transfer from their wheelchair onto the toilet, to stand in a shower, close a door, ... |appearance = <!-- A possible rendering, if relevant - optional --> |status = Draft <!-- Possible values: Draft | RFC | Voting | Rejected | Approved --> @@ -11,30 +11,109 @@ |rfcStartDate = <!-- Date the RFC email is sent to the Tagging list: YYYY-MM-DD ; you must also set status to RFC --> |voteStartDate = <!-- Date voting will start: at least 2 weeks after RFC, YYY-MM-DD format ; you must also set status to 'Voting' --> -|voteEndDate = <!-- Date voting will end: at least 2 weeks after start of voting, YYY-MM-DD format; you must also set status to -'Approved' or 'Rejected' -> +|voteEndDate = <!-- Date voting will end: at least 2 weeks after start of voting, YYY-MM-DD format; you must also set status to -'Approved' or 'Rejected' --> }} -</includeonly> + == Proposal == -<!-- A short statement of what you propose, including a list of what tag(s) are being proposed to be added, changed, or deprecated --> -<!-- Which Database Elements (nodes, ways, areas, relations) each of the tags can be used on could be included here or under the Tagging heading, or both. --> +Some wheelchair users are dependent on grab rails and similar supports to move from their wheelchair onto the toilet or other amenities such as showers. Some of them have a strong preference or need for this grab rail to be on a certain side of the toilet (e.g. someone who is paralyzed in their right arm will need the support to be on the left). +Many toilet maps (e.g. [https://toiletmap.gov.au/# the australian national toilet map]) keep track of 'handedness' of a toilet. +For others, certain types of support are harder then others, which is why detailed tagging is important for them - such as orientation of the grab rail. + + +== Rationale == + +=== The current 'grab_rails' is insufficient === + +The [[Key:toilets:wheelchair:grab_rails|current page on grab rails]] is very limited, never went through formal voting. It does not allow for enough detail for some usecases and does not allow room for more details. Furthermore, there are only ~150 current uses, the vast majority in Flanders, Belgium. + +This template will replace that entire page (and deprecate the current tagging). The author is also in touch with the only data user of this tag, we will coordinate a mechanical edit to update those tags. + +The main differences between this proposal and the current page are the addition of the <code>left</code> and <code>right</code>-suffixes and formalizing the prefixes to indicate where grab bars can be found. + +=== This is micromapping / too detailed / to difficult for the average mapper === + +This is indeed very detailed mapping. However, + +* the idea is to have support by editing software (esp. MapComplete), so that this detailed information can be easily added to OpenStreetMap without data errors, even by inexperienced users. +* there are other, difficult and highly detailed tags in OSM +* this level of detail is _really_ needed by wheelchair users +* this level of detail is often asked by professional users who would want to contribute this type of data, but now cant + + +=== Why not handrail? === + +The term '''handrail''' is associated mostly with steps, ramps and elevators. A grab rail indeed is a type of handrail. However, the latter term is widely used within the disability community and in all the official documentation such as the UK-building codex, the https://accessmobilitysolutions.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Changing-Places-design-specifications-2020-1_compressed.pdf Australian guide on installing a changing place], ... + +A '''grab rail''' is the proper UK-english noun for this type of object. American English uses '''grab bar''' as common term; but as [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Any_tags_you_like#How_to_name_new_tags the OpenStreetMap project prefers British English] we settled for grab_rail. + +== Tagging == + +=== Indicating where a grab rail is found === + +Many features can have grab rails, the most common ones are (sitting) toilets, sinks, showers, doors and urinals. + +Often, those grab rails on different locations are located in the same area - namely a wheelchair-accessible toilet stall. + +To distinguish this, we use various prefixes to indicate where the grab rails are located. + +For example: + +* A {{key|amenity|shower}} where all the showers have a grab rail, {{Key|grab_rail}} would be added +* A {{key|amenity|toilets}} where all the toilets have a grab rail, {{Key|grab_rail}} would be added +* A {{key|amenity|toilets}} where there is a wheelchair accessible stall which has a grab rail, {{Key|toilets:wheelchair|grab_rail}} would be added +* In a wheelchair accessible stall with a sitting toilet, sink and shower, {{Tag|toilets:wheelchair:shower:grab_rail:left=yes}}, {{Tag|toilets:wheelchair:sink:grab_rail:right|yes}} can be added. Another option is to map the various features as different points. + +As the side on which the grab rail is found is important, we can distinguish between <code>left</code>, <code>right</code> and eventually <code>behind</code> + +In general, the direction a user faces when using the amenity is used is used to determine what the left and right side is. For example: + +* On a (sitting) toilet, the left side is the side on the left when sitting on the toilet +* For a urinal, the left side is the side when standing in front of it, facing the urinal +* For a (hinged) door, the direction is less clear. No prefix is used here +* For a shower, the left side is determined when facing the exit of the shower + + + +=== Possible values === + + +{| class="wikitable" +|- +! Image !! tag !! Explanation +|- +| [[File:Grab_rail_horizontal_wall_mounted.jpg|thumb]] || {{Tag|grab_rail:<right/left>|yes}} || A wall-mounted grab rail in a horizontal position (or which has a horizontal part). +|- +| || {{Tag|grab_rail:<right/left>|no}} || There is no grab rail on this side +|} + + +In some cases, there are also grab rails ''behind'' the toilet. In this case, {{Key|grab_rail:behind}} is used. The default assumption is {{Key|grab_rail:behind|no}} + +{{Tag|grab_rail|yes}} without indication of side is semantically unclear. There probably are grab rails on both sides, but this might not be the case. + +=== Extra information === + +Extra information, such as {{Tag|grab_rail:foldable|yes/no}}, {{Tag|grab_rail:toilet_paper_holder|yes/no}}, {{Tag|grab_rail:material|yes/no}}, {{Tag|grab_rail:orientation|vertical/horizontal/diagonal}} can be added as well and are possible future improvements. + +=== What about armrests? === + +Some toilets have armrests attached to the toilet. Those are ''not'' covered by this proposal. See the proposal [[Proposal:Armrests_on_toilets|here]] -==Rationale== -<!-- Explanation of why the proposal is needed, and why you chose the specific key and value of the tag. Compare with similar tags or previous proposals, if relevant. Consider significance and potential uses of the data.--> -<!-- Keep the tag short while still being logical and descriptive enough to need little explanation. Avoid tag names which might cause confusion with a different tag. British English terms are preferred, when possible --> +== Examples == + +<gallery> +File:Wheelchair_Accessible_toilet_0.jpeg| This toilet would be tagged with {{Tag|grab_rail:right|yes}} and {{Tag|grab_rail:left|yes}} +File:Wheelchair_accessible_toilet6.jpeg| {{Tag|grab_rail:right|yes}} but {{Tag|grab_rail:left|no}} +File:Wheelchair_accessible_toilet4.jpeg| {{Tag|grab_rail:left|yes}} ; {{Tag|grab_rail:right|yes}} ; {{Tag|grab_rail:behind|yes}} +</gallery> + + +==Features/Pages affected== -==Tagging== -<!-- -A table, list, or set of subheadings explaining each tag: -* Definition of the meaning of the tag and how it should be used -* Elements tagged: nodes, ways, areas or relations? [if a feature is smaller than 5m by 5m it would usually be mapped only as a node] -* Comparison with current tagging schemes (if applicable) -* Additional tags used in combination (including existing tags) -* When other tags should be used instead. ---> +* [[Key:toilets:wheelchair:grab rails]] +* [[Wheelchair accessible toilets]] -==Examples== -<!-- Examples of what elements should be tagged: real-world images, openstreetmap.org screenshots, links to OpenStreetMap elements that use the proposed tagging. --> ==Rendering== @@ -42,4 +121,5 @@ ==Features/Pages affected== +[[Key:toilets:wheelchair:grab rails]] <!-- List of wiki pages that would be edited if the proposal is approved --> '