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'{{Proposal page | name = Power Bank Rental | user = Paguro01 | key = rental:powerbank | type = {{IconNode}}, {{IconArea}}, {{IconRelation}} | definition = A powerbank rental station for mobile phone users, which allows them to pay for limited use of a powerbank to charge their devices in a hurry. | appearance = <!-- A possible rendering, if relevant - optional --> | status = Rejected | draftStartDate = 2024-11-03 | rfcStartDate = 2024-11-05 | voteStartDate = 2024-12-15 | voteEndDate = 2025-01-05 | taginfo = true | proposalDate = 2024-11-04 }} [[File:SZ 深圳 Shenzhen 福田 Futian 銀沙路 YinSha Road 中洲灣 C Future City Mall 搜電租借 Sharing PowerBank rental June 2024 R12S 01.jpg|thumb|Typical example of a powerbank rental station]] This proposal has been updated since its first revision. See the Discussion page for details. ==Proposal== This proposal suggests the definition of the tag {{Tag|rental:powerbank|*}} on {{IconNode}} nodes with {{Tag|amenity|rental_machine}} to map powerbank (portable, rechargeable batteries) rental stations. The new tag alone can also be used on {{Tag|shop}} or other {{Key|amenity}} to add this powerbank rental service, thus it's not limited to rental ''machines''. The machines are usually found in venues, stations and public places in general. They provide users with a quick and effortless recharge for their devices while on the go, and usually provide cables. Almost all of them require some kind of payment in order for the machine to rent the powerbank, and they usually allow credit/debit cards and wallet apps. ==Rationale== Several options have been considered prior to this proposal: * {{Tag|amenity|vending_machine}} with {{Tag|vending_machine|powerbank}} Powerbank rental units typically don't look/behave like regular vending machines: they have no items on display and don't "sell" you the powerbank. * {{Tag|amenity|device_charging_station}}: This tag usually represents a charging station, that is, a structure hosting a number of power plugs and cables for you to charge the device while tethered to it. It does not allow the customer to walk away or move around freely, and seldom requires any payment to use. In case of other kinds of amenities, it conflicts on {{Key|amenity}}. * {{Tag|amenity|power_bank_rental}} would not convey the fact that we're mapping a machine, and doesn't scale to scenarios where a shop is offering the service without a dedicated machine (over-the-counter rental). In my opinion, none of the above fit the definition of a power bank rental station, hence why the proposed tag. Having them on the map like this can prove useful to: * Tourists and foreigners: powerbanks usually come with USB or Lightning cables, which bypass the need for a mains adapter and could prove useful to tourists and foreigners; * Visitors (venues, event halls, ...): knowing if and where any of these stations can be found is quite important when you're at an event venue and the battery runs out, as it's usually a problem to leave the venue and come back in; * Travellers and remote workers (stations, airports, ...): large hubs usually provide these in waiting rooms, lobbies and areas where people are expected to wait for extended periods of time. ...and many others. ==Tagging== === Standalone === Place a {{IconNode}} node where the machine is located and tag with {{Tag|amenity|rental_machine}} and {{Tag|rental:powerbank|machine}} to indicate that the machine rents powerbanks as per the description above. === As part of a vending machine === Add {{Tag|rental:powerbank|machine}} to the {{Tag|amenity|vending_machine}} {{Icon|node}} node. === As part of other kinds of amenities === Add either of the following variants of {{Tag|rental:powerbank}} to the {{Icon|node}} node, {{Icon|area}} area or {{Icon|relation}} relation: * {{Tag|rental:powerbank|counter}} for over-the-counter rental service (no machine involved) * {{Tag|rental:powerbank|yes}} if there is no suitable value to describe how the service is provided (consider adding your value to the Wiki!) === Additional tags === Consider adding extra tags to the feature if possible: * {{Key|access}} if access to the feature is restricted * {{Key|amperage}} to describe the capacity (in Ampere) of the powerbanks; if capacity varies, set according to the biggest battery the feature can rent. * {{Key|brand}} * {{Key|capacity}} with the number of powerbank slots in the machine, if visible from the outside; * {{Key|charge}} if a payment is required for the feature to release one powerbank ** if the charge is fixed per rented unit, put it in the value: {{Tag|charge|3=3 EUR}} ** if the charge increases linearly over time, use the appropriate unit: {{Tag|charge|3=1 EUR/hour}} ** if the charge is defined in segments, use the at-syntax: {{Tag|charge|3=1 EUR @ (1 hour); 3 EUR @ (4 hours)}} ** exceptions should be tagged with {{Key|charge:conditional}} * {{Key|direction}} facing direction of the feature * {{Key|operator}} * {{Key|payment}} to describe what payment methods are allowed * {{Tag|return}} to describe where can the user return the battery when the rental is over. Suggested values: ** {{Tag|return|here}} = the battery must be returned to the {{Tag|rental:powerbank}} the user rented it from (this feature in particular) ** {{Tag|return|network}} = the battery can be returned at any other feature of the network, including this one. Examples of this value include returning to a machine of the same operator or brand, or returning to a shop/amenity/counter of the same operator or brand. * {{Tag|return:network|brand}} to detail that the network for returns ({{Tag|return|network}}) is limited to features of the same brand ({{Tag|brand}}) as this one * {{Tag|return:network|operator}} to detail that the network for returns ({{Tag|return|network}}) is limited to features of the same operator ({{Tag|operator}}) as this one ==Examples== <gallery> File:SZ 深圳 Shenzhen Metro 前海灣 QianHaiWan Station concourse 出租叉電器 Rechargers rental August 2024 R12S 01.jpg|The "小电充电" machine in Qianhaiwan Metro Station in Shenzhen. It's one of the brand for power bank rental and we can find them via mini-programme of Wechat or Ailpay. Most of them are run by the store or in the public areas. File:Fuelrod Portable Charger (30130856918).jpg|FuelRod machine, popular in Theme Parks, Train Stations, and Airports across the US </gallery> ==Rendering== The node should be rendered as a labeled icon: * We could use the same icon for both these devices and {{Tag|amenity|device_charging_station}}s but the latter currently have no icon (at least in the wiki). Otherwise we could use the icon of {{Tag|amenity|vending_machine}} if drawing a new icon wasn't worth it, but this would mix the two totally unrelated POIs. * The label should only appear if {{Key|brand}} or {{Key|operator}} are defined, as usual. ==Features/Pages affected== This proposal would affect: * [[Key:amenity]] (inclusion in the list) * [[Tag:amenity=device charging station]] and [[Tag:amenity=vending machine]] (linking here as a "see also" / "related") * [[Battery]] (new disambiguation link: "a device providing batteries for mobile devices") ==External discussions== None found, please feel free to edit this page and add them if you know any! ; Announcements on the Community Forum * [https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/rfc-feature-proposal-power-bank-rental/121101 (RFC) Feature Proposal - Power Bank Rental] * [https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/voting-feature-proposal-power-bank-rental/122941 (Voting) Feature Proposal - Power Bank Rental] ==Comments== <!-- There must be at least 2 weeks set aside for comment on the proposal. Do not go to a vote without addressing the comments and fixing any problems with the proposal. The wiki talk page is used for comments, it is linked from the proposal page for those unfamiliar with wikis. --> Please comment on the [[{{TALKPAGENAME}}|discussion page]]. ==Voting== {{Proposed feature voting}}<!-- Cheat sheet: {{vote|yes}} OPTIONAL MESSAGE HERE --~~~~ {{vote|no}} YOUR REASONS HERE --~~~~ {{vote|abstain}} YOUR COMMENTS HERE --~~~~ Place your vote below, at the end of the list. --> {{vote|no}} As noted on the discussion page: The use of "rental:" as a prefix is extremely uncommon. The highest scoring tag is "rental:cargo_bike" with a mere 32 uses in just 2 cities. ":rental" or "_rental" as a suffix is the common way with hundreds of uses. This proposal for power banks should follow the more common scheme and use "powerbank:rental", as is already documented as a generic suffix in [[https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:*:rental]]. --[[User:Mueschel|Mueschel]] ([[User talk:Mueschel|talk]]) 18:48, 16 December 2024 (UTC) {{vote|no}} Voting not announced, so at least needs to be extended. {{tag|return}} suddenly appeared unannounced and undiscussed on voting. {{tag|return:network}} contradicts standard {{tag|*:network}} suffix, and is overcomplicated. Should have {{tag|return|brand}} or {{tag|return|operator}} directly. {{tag|return}} should be emphasized as for use on {{tag|amenity|rental_machine}} only. It should be suffixed {{tag|*:return}} on other features. —— [[User:Kovposch|Kovposch]] ([[User talk:Kovposch|talk]]) 09:51, 19 December 2024 (UTC) {{vote|no}} I think {{key|rental}} should be used. --[[User:Osmwithspace|Osmwithspace]] ([[User talk:Osmwithspace|talk]]) 20:54, 28 December 2024 (UTC)'