Talk:Georgia (U.S. state)

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Discuss Georgia (U.S. state) page here:

Proposing to redo the page

I'm proposing to redo the current wiki for Georgia (U.S. state). The page hasn't had a serious update in almost 7 years, a lot has changed within the 7 yeas, even for rural places in Georgia. I'm also proposing to upgrade the state roads to functional classification according to GaDOT's webiste.

Here are my proposals for the wiki page:

  • OVERHAUL the layout of page, making it easier to read.
  • DELETE the Events section, or at least update it to have the "Other mapping parties" and leave that section of the events section. This would remove the Atlanta Citywide event and the Fox news article.
  • OVERHAUL the tagging guidelines for Georgia and make the FC chart more clearer. More on this further down.
  • UPGRADE the reference section to include County Roads as "CR ##"
  • AMEND the speed limit table to only go up to 70mph. No road in Georgia is higher than 70mph.
  • UPGRADE the relations to any other relations that may be added. For the most part, I would leave this alone.
  • LEAVE ALONE the Land Use and Data Sources tabs, only adding if there is something that needs to be added.
  • DELETE the Tiger tab, unless it's deemed very important. The last update to that shows the 2008. The link in that tab shows a page which also hasn't been updated since 2008. I'm also open to discussing the importance of this, if there are other updates out there.
  • UPDATE the To Do tab. There are some things I can think about that needs to be added
  • MOVE the Cities tab toward the top and update it by adding some large cities in the state, such as Macon, Albany, Savannah, Augusta, and Columbus. I'm also open to removing this tab or adding some other cities as well. I don't believe a list of every single town is needed here, or anywhere for that matter. A link can be put in for non OSM wiki pages which list every town in Georgia, if it really matters that much.
  • DELETE the City Template tab unless there is a valid reason to keep this, which I am not thinking of.
  • DELETE Extracts tab. The current link on that tab is not working.
  • ADD a references tab where references can be cited within the page and linked at the bottom, or extra links can also be added for various things.



Functional classification (FC) proposal using this (you will have to zoom in):
This is stemming from a conversation I've had with a few editors. Some editors are in the belief that every US highway should be a primary/trunk road, every state highway is a secondary road, and all county roads are tertiary roads. Some editors are in the belief that the state has followed the guidelines of FHWA and has determined which roads are classed based on those guidelines. With FC, it puts everyone on the same page. FC creates a well established set of rules for roads within the state, as well as helps create consistency with Florida and Alabama in regards to those states being mapped with FC applied. Anyone can look at the state, look at the data, and understand how to edit in the area. I also understand there will be some anomalies within the state and FC, as there are with every state. In Texas, US 377 is deems a major collector between its terminus with US 277 and Junction, Texas. In Georgia, US 78 is a major collector between US 27 (Breman) and GA 61 (Villa Rica}. There are some dirt roads within the state which may be deemed a major collector or a minor collector. The state has determined these roads to be classed as they are. I am open to discussion about trunk roads. I saw a discussion about this here, but I believe no consensus was ever formed. I'd like to start it for Georgia and get it formed for Georgia.

The chart on the Georgia wiki page is not a bad starting point. I would update to eliminate the examples and column and possibly update some of the wording within the description. Most of this looks like it was copy/pasted straight from the FHWA website (although that page isn't opening for me at the current moment) as definitions of the various classification of roads.

I'm open to discussion and to ideas about both the wiki page as well FC.

-- User:Txemt 14:47, 1 September 2021

I see User:Hiausirg did some updates since you wrote that. e.g. removing the old events section. I remember writing some of that a long time ago!
This all sounds good to me. Please dive in and make improvements!
When it comes to information that's likely to go out of date, it's probably a good idea to thin it down and keep it brief. Unfortunately people tend to over-estimate the ability to keep this stuff up-to-date on the wiki (See also Creating locality pages)
-- Harry Wood (talk) 11:28, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
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