Talk:Tag:historic=city gate
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unnecessary??
- isn´t this tag unnecessary?? for me is the same as: barrier=sally_port + historic=yes + access=yes --Sergionaranja 19:19, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
- A city-gate need not be a barrier any longer and should not be tagged as barrier if it's not in use as barrier. Furthermore, a city-gate is to important for being retrieved out of a combination like that. --WalterSchloegl 21:42, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
Gate towers, too
Hi. I've expanded this tag's definition to cover gate towers, too. Please let me know if anything is unclear. Thanks! Fgnievinski (talk) 15:01, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
Some examples:
Fgnievinski (talk) 18:58, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
- In the case of the 'gate tower'?(gate house?) above, I think it's very similar to some of the gate houses in East Asia and the distinction is blurry.
- It's also in the 'building=gatehouse' category, but some covered structures in East Asia are similar in size or area to a gate house, but serve no purpose of control, just marking the beginning of an area.
- The picture of the gate tower above doesn't seem to serve any purpose of control to me either. --깨몽/dreamy (talk) 01:39, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
Gates of the Fortress
Do you think historic=city_gate could also be used for the gate of a fort, a fortress that is used for military purposes only, rather than a city wall surrounding a residence? --깨몽/dreamy (talk) 02:22, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
Why not a way?
Why can't this tag be used as a way, for example, in a highway? --AntMadeira (talk) 20:49, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure exactly what representation you're looking at or what case you're referring to, but
- 1. As you can see in the example image, a road may pass under the city gate, but it's unlikely to be a heavily traveled road like a highway. (I'm guessing the same would be true for a gatehouse.)
- 2. If the structure is simply a signpost(See 'Seouimun Gate' in the 'Comparison' section of 'Tag:building=gatehouse'), it can be built on a wide, heavily traveled road like a highway, but if it is a city gate or gatehouse that is intended to mark a city's territory or control traffic, it is unlikely that it will pass through a road like a highway, which should have little restrictions on traffic. --깨몽/dreamy (talk) 01:06, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- There are cases where the gate or entry is more of a "tunnel" in arch form that extends for a few meters. If this tag can be used with areas (probably to draw huge massive doors, I suppose), the use of ways could be applied to gates that are actually open tunnels under a city wall. There are plenty examples of those, like in here --AntMadeira (talk) 04:22, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think there's a problem with seeing the example you gave as 'city gate' or 'gatehouse'.
- So what was the point of your original question? (Incidentally, I think it's worth clarifying what you mean by 'way' or 'highway', etc., since some words in OSM are different from their everyday meaning.) --깨몽/dreamy (talk) 07:16, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- What I mean is that wiki only "allows" the use of this tag with nodes and areas. For this cases I mentioned, I argue that it could be used with ways (in these cases, in highways). --AntMadeira (talk) 16:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- There are cases where the gate or entry is more of a "tunnel" in arch form that extends for a few meters. If this tag can be used with areas (probably to draw huge massive doors, I suppose), the use of ways could be applied to gates that are actually open tunnels under a city wall. There are plenty examples of those, like in here --AntMadeira (talk) 04:22, 19 January 2025 (UTC)