Talk:Tag:water=lake
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Size in the description
I recommend that we fix the description to be verifiable by removing the vague "considerable size" wording. PangoSE (talk) 20:43, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Should this value used on nodes?
Recent edits by @Mateusz Konieczny: and me show a disagreement on geometries on which water=lake should be used.
- Proposed_features/Water_details explicitly states water=* should be used on areas, not nodes.
- usage shows a clear affinity with areas, not nodes.
Any_tags_you_like principle makes any tag valid on anything. The wiki displays should/shouldn't and looks prescriptive. Usage is seen on taginfo and there is less value to copy it on wiki. It sounds like we should discuss first the opportunity to change affinity for this value. Fanfouer (talk) 15:04, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- "should be used on areas, not nodes" I agree, nevertheless use on nodes is valid. Specifically in a bit rare case where location of lake is known but its area cannot be mapped (or was not mapped) it can be tagged on node, also with extra detail. This is quite rare as usually people willing to provide extra detail are also willing to map geometry of the water area. But such tagging remains valid, while tagging lake on unclosed way is utterly invalid Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 20:44, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- I would like to see where those flag are based upon a precise definition of validity in mind please. Despite valid it may not be encouraged (shouldn't).
- There are two major flaws when we come to validity:
- 1. Mostly any area can be mapped as a node (to begin with its centroïd). In this situation, I see no value in this distinction.
- 2. Mapping a surface feature with a node due to poor imagery is at best temporary. If you get appropriate imagery, 100% lakes will be areas.
- Furthermore, natural=tree would be valid as a circle as wide as the tree's trunk at 1m height from the ground. natural=tree_row would be valid as an area to reflect the with of the row. Why can't I change it on nodes and areas?
- Anyhow, this hasn't been reviewed this way and should be discussed prior to change it, for any value of any key. Fanfouer (talk) 21:12, 12 June 2022 (UTC)