Organised Editing/Activities/YouthMappers violate Organised Editing guidelines (2020 complaint by Mateusz Konieczny)
email send to info@youthmappers.org
YouthMappers violate Organised Editing Guidelines
Page required by https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines#Documentation_on_the_wiki does not exist
In particular "if participants will receive training material or written instructions, a copy of, or link to, these materials"
"plans for a “post-event clean up” to validate edits, especially if the activity introduces new contributors to OpenStreetMap"
"after the activity has completed, or at least once a month for ongoing efforts, a description of the results"
are missing.
I am aware of https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/YouthMappers but it is not covering this requirements.
This email was triggered by https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/93999167 that was not handled by your internal review, if any and would be caught if edits would be actually reviewed and mappers would receive guidance/help
-- Mateusz Konieczny
response
Hi Mateusz,
The activities that use #youthmappers are organized by the individual chapters, not by the YouthMappers OSM page you linked to. Based on your feedback we will work with the various chapters to publish their events, when applicable, to the Organized Editing/Activities page. However, we do feel more often than not, that YouthMappers activities do not fall under the Organized Editing Guidelines.
An important aspect about YouthMappers to remember is that the chapters are volunteers and are never "directed" to map. This is outside of the classroom so no grades are dependent on them mapping in OSM nore are they financially compensated. With this in mind, a lot of their work can be seen as ...community activities between friends... (see the Organized Editing Guidelines preamble).
Additionally, it is important to note that a lot of the students strongly identify with the YouthMappers brand and may include the hashtag in all of their edits regardless of the purpose behind it. For example they may include the hashtag if they notice their favorite ice-cream shop is not on the map or if they participate in a HOT mapping task.
I hope this helps clarify the edits and how YouthMappers participates in the OSM community. Again, thanks for helping fix the edits for this particular changeset.
Best regards, (SNIPPED FOR PRIVACY)
my response
Note that while all cases where mappers are paid or forced to edit certainly fall under OEG, it is not a sole cases where it is applicable.
For example, someone organising workshop (online or offline one) that asks people to map buildings in specific city in Africa and instructs them how it can be done qualifies as OEG.
Also when mappers are not paid and are not obligated to participate.
See https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines#Organised_Editing_Guidelines
See "organised editing guidelines apply to any edits that involve more than one person and can be grouped under one or more sizeable, substantial, coordinated editing initiatives"