Proposal:Amenity=baking oven
| The Feature Page for the approved proposal bakehouse is located at Tag:building=bakehouse |
| The Feature Page for the approved proposal baking oven is located at Tag:amenity=baking_oven |
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Proposal
We would like to be able to map bakehouses and baking ovens. This proposal includes the two possible meanings / usages: the building and the amenity.
To be concrete, here are detailed examples:
Case 1: A dedicated bakehouse that you have seen but you do not know if it still used:
Case 2: A dedicated bakehouse building that is still used:
- The "building" OSM object (way or multi-polygon relation):
- The "oven" OSM object (probably a node, eventually a way or a multi-polygon relation):
- amenity=baking_oven
- oven=wood_fired
- opening_hours=Sa 14:00-18:00; Su-Fr,PH off (time when it is possible to use the oven and only if it is different of the opening hours of the building)
- operator=Municipality of Anchorage
Case 3: Historic bakehouse; building still exists, oven still present but not used anymore
- The "building" OSM object (way or multi-polygon relation):
- The "oven" OSM object (probably a node, eventually a way or a multi-polygon relation):
Case 4: Historic bakehouse; building still exists, oven has been removed
Case 5: Historic bakehouse that is not used for a long time:
- The "building" OSM object (way or multi-polygon relation):
- The "oven" OSM object (probably a node, eventually a way or a multi-polygon relation):
Case 6: Baking oven inside another type of public building
- The "building" OSM object (way or multi-polygon relation):
- The "oven" OSM object (probably a node, eventually a way or a multi-polygon relation):
- amenity=baking_oven
- oven=electric
- contact:phone=* (to get information specifically on the oven)
Case 7: Standalone oven, like horno, tabun oven, beehive oven, Kemence (építmény)
- Only the "oven" OSM object (probably a node, eventually a way or a multi-polygon relation):
Note that oven=* is another current proposal (see Proposed_features/Key:oven and https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/oven).
Since amenity=* implies a public facility, there is no need for an optional tag public=*.
Rationale
In France, there is a communal bakehouse in almost every village, which possess a wood fired oven. Although nowadays rarely used, these are still an important heritage: often, municipalities, village associations or simply people use the bakehouse during local celebrations or feasts. I suppose these are very rarely found in larger cities.
The French WikiProject has a page where they already briefly introduced the "amenity=baking_oven" tag, among patrimonial ones (french language only : WikiProject_France/Petit_Patrimoine). Our proposed tag would also be useful in rural areas in Germany, as stated by Phoks for OSM group UlmerAlb in the discussion page.
Wikipedia provides a list of different ovens.
To clarify, note that it differs from:
- shop=bakery: which is a shop
- man_made=kiln: which is almost never used for cooking (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ovens#Kilns)
- Proposed_features/Key:oven: which only describes the type of oven
The proposed tags fill the gap that oven=* leaves open, as explained on the tagging mailing list: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2015-October/026942.html. Thus, with building=bakehouse, amenity=baking_oven, man_made=kiln and oven=* all cases should be covered.
Examples
As written above, there is approximately one per village in France (let say 36 000). There are also many in Germany.
Bakehouse near Ulm/Germany
Bakehouse near Ulm/Germany
Bakehouse near Ulm/Germany
Bakehouse from eastern France
Applies to
building=bakehouse applies to areas. amenity=baking_oven can apply to nodes or areas.
Rendering
It could be nice to have an icon, especially because a bakehouse building often stands out visually in a village. Here is a first draft that re-uses the "bakery" icon: 
Features/Pages affected
This would affect:
External Discussions
There is a discussion on the tagging mailing list, but almost everything has also been added to the discussion page.
Comments
Please comment on the discussion page.
Voting
I approve this proposal. --EneaSuper (talk) 09:42, 17 December 2016 (UTC)- I approve this proposal. --Meillo (talk) 11:23, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Yvanoé (talk) 11:28, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Dieterdreist (talk) 13:00, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Roadsguy (talk) 15:16, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Phoks (talk) 18:36, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Giardia (talk) 10:14, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Strehm (talk) 19:28, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Banze (talk) 19:39, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Scaro (talk) 20:23, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Javbw (talk) 21:28, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Waldhans (talk) 08:16, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Kazing (talk) 08:56, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. Sounds reasonable. How would I tag a historic oven that is used once or twice a year during a village festival? --Polarbear w (talk) 12:43, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Camey (talk) 09:41, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Akatinha (talk) 10:02, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Jojo4u (talk) 00:03, 12 December 2016 (UTC) It's good to see the OSM proposal process (still) leads to well discussed proposals with much support. I may suggest to consider adding location=* to amenity=baking_oven because both in- and outdoor ovens are covered.
- I approve this proposal. --Hobbesvsboyle (talk) 12:51, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Surveyor54 (talk) 08:36, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Gendy54 (talk) 12:11, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --RoGer6 (talk) 21:08, 18 December 206 (UTC)
Voting Result
Voting on this proposal has been closed.
It was approved unanimously with 21 votes for.
More than required 74 % approval.