Talk:Tag:building=church

Former churches

These instructions say "It includes cases where building is no longer used for original purpose." but gives no further instruction. It would be useful to explain what tags should be used for former churches that now serve a difference purpose (e.g. residential). Dave.Dunford (talk) 11:43, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

If there is no church anymore, do not use amenity=place_of_worship at the same time.--geozeisig (talk) 15:54, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

I added more explicit instructions. Is it more clear now? Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 14:59, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Yes – thanks. Dave.Dunford (talk) 15:01, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Rendering examples

The two rendering examples don't illustrate what they purport to - I suspect bc in OSM Carto a church is now only rendered with a cross if also tagged religion=christian. (If so, Mateusz's January 2019 edit could be expanded.)

I've spent a few mins looking for the solution, but I'm still learning wiki markup and I got nowhere. eteb3 (talk) 08:28, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Yes, in OSM Carto building=church never had a special rendering (from what I remember). And styling example for some reason is now displaying some different map style. Not sure why Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 09:01, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

The markup says it's displaying 'Mapnik'. Am I right that is now superceded by 'OSM Carto'? They're two different rendering styles? eteb3 (talk) 10:07, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Mapnik is a library used to render many map style including OSM Carto. OSM Carto is often misleadingly named "mapnik". Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 19:22, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Addition of church:type=* key?

A large tables of values for a key church:type=* was added to this page, but most have never been used. Please provide defintions for these tags on the linked page, Władysław_Komorek, if you know what they mean. --Jeisenbe (talk) 04:05, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

There will be more of them. :) We intend to adjust these values to the official types of churches in Poland. --Władysław Komorek (talk) 17:51, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Could I suggest (for consideration - it's not necessarily a good idea) that the tag is instead church:type:pl=* or church:type:catholic=*

I sense this may be about Catholic churches where each has a special dignity or status; but in the UK (for example) the categorisations would be very different. Eg, the Anglican and Catholic Churches (I mean the organisations) have different ways of classifying the dignity and status of their churches (I mean the buildings). And there are lots of churches that don't have any classification at all - some Non-Conformist Protestants, for example, would say a church is a church is a church (or even that there's no such thing, just a building where people meet).

So I'm guessing this is quite a local tagging scheme. eteb3 (talk) 19:37, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

This tag defines the affiliation of the church to its parent organ, based on official diocesan sources in the Catholic Church, not only in Poland. If you don't like it, you don't have to use it, but we have over a thousand uses. Especially since this tag is described on the Wiki.--Władysław Komorek (talk) 16:56, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

The way you explain it, the tag concerns the current function of the building within an organisational structure. Then it's logically linked to amenity=place_of_worship, but not to building=church. It would only make sense here if churches were actually built differently depending on whether they are supposed to be e.g. rectory, parish or filial churches. If so, please explain (and change church:type=* to express that what should be tagged is not the current use but the original destination of the building), otherwise keeping the link here would contribute to the already too tempting but false conclusion that building=church refers to the current use made of the building. And we should avoid that; so it should then not be linked from here but from amenity=place_of_worship. Vollis (talk) 19:40, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

It makes sense. Sorry, my fault, I put this tag on the wrong page. Too much mapping lately. :) --Władysław Komorek (talk) 22:49, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Specify how a church building is now used

So if we can map church buildings that are currently used for something else now, how do we specify what the current use is? For example: a church building now used commercially. Chtfn (talk) 06:38, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

E.g. building=church, shop=clothes Vollis (talk) 07:55, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

See also building:use=*. See also page church describing it Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 09:09, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Ah thank you, building:use=* is what I was after! Chtfn (talk) 12:53, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Resolved: building:use=* is now mentioned Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 15:27, 19 February 2021 (UTC)