Talk:Hong Kong/Transport/Road
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Sources and references
- I recommend to use the classification of "annual traffic census" to map into OSM keys
trunk
for UT (urban trunk) even if it no longer belongs to a route (e.g. Gloucester Road)primary
for PD (primary distributor)secondary
for DD (district distributor)tertiary
for LD (local distributor)- either
primary
orsecondary
for RR (rural road) depending on if it has been improved. - --Miklcct (talk) 15:54, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- This is not a correct appreciation of the classification. It serves a planning function, mainly for deciding the road standard to be constructed to. It doesn't neccessarily reflect current use, especially in history. ---- Kovposch (talk) 21:00, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- Historic note: For reference, I will list out some contradictions. In general, L is the worst, because it's used for the lowest standard across the broad, without regards to its function. It can cover
highway=residential
,highway=unclassified
, orteritary=*
. From official definition, an Expressway may be formed from Trunk or Primary Distributor. UT is usually used for Tunnel Area, while tunnels in the middle of Expressway are usually EX. Slip roads are demoted, eghighway=motorway_link
are UT or RT.
HKI:
2022,1010. Wong Chuk Hang Rd: PDhighway=trunk
0000. King's Rd: PDhighway=secondary
0000. Shau Kei Wan Rd: PDhighway=secondary
1446. IEC: DDhighway=trunk
1801. Victoria Park Rd: UThighway=primary
2216. Rumsey St Flyover: PDhighway=primary
(washighway=trunk
+ref=4
1208,1409. Connaught Rd C (including Pedder St Underpass): PDhighway=primary
(washighway=trunk
+ref=4
; 1030 to the east is UT)
1837. Connaught Rd W: DDhighway=primary
2217. Lung Wo Rd: PDhighway=secondary
0000. Garden Rd / Cotton Tree Dr: PDhighway=secondary
0000. Hennessy Rd: PDhighway=secondary
0000. Johnston Rd: DDhighway=tertiary
0000. Queensway: PDhighway=secondary
2213. Kennedy Rd: DDhighway=tertiary
0000. Yee Wo St: PDhighway=secondary
0000. Causeway Rd: PDhighway=secondary
1212. Irving St, Pennington St: PDhighway=secondary
Kowloon:
3003,3805. Prince Edward Rd E: UThighway=primary
3012,3439,3440,3833,4030,3442,3834. Kwun Tong Rd: PDhighway=trunk
3644. Lei Yue Mun Rd: PDhighway=trunk
3874,3686. Wai Yip St: DDhighway=primary
3681,3869,4069.3274. Kai Cheung Rd: DDhighway=primary
(but is colored yellow as "main road")
3027,3641. Lung Cheung Rd: PDhighway=primary
3212,4208. Chatham Rd N: PDhighway=trunk
4006. Chatham Rd S: PDhighway=trunk
4221. Hung Hom Bypass: EXhighway=primary
3498. Kln Park Dr: DDhighway=primary
3025,3026,3712,3304,3298. Lin Cheung Rd: UThighway=primary
3024,4092,3503,3707,. W Kln Hwy: UThighway=motorway
NT:
5703. Tsing Kwai Hwy: UThighway=motorway
(5093 to the north is EX)
6219. Kwai Tsing Rd: DDhighway=primary
6221. Tsing Yi N Coastal Rd: DDhighway=primary
5018. Tsing Chuen Rd: DDhighway=primary
NWNT:
5019. Castle Peak Rd Yuen Long: RThighway=primary
6213. Castle Peak Rd HSK: RThighway=primary
5252. Castle Peak Rd Ping Shan: RThighway=primary
5846. Tsing Tin Rd: DDhighway=primary
5889. Hung Tin Rd: DDhighway=primary
5284. Tin Ying Rd: DDhighway=primary
5287,6080. Tin Tsz Rd: DDhighway=primary
NENT:
5498,5290. Sha Lek Hwy: UThighway=motorway
5892,6088. Tate's Cairn Hwy: UThighway=motorway
6009,5813. Siu Lek Yuen Rd: PDhighway=secondary
(also not colored yellow as a "main road")
5819,5620,5419. Tai Po Rd Shatin: PDhighway=trunk
5414. Yuen Wo Rd: PDhighway=secondary
5214. Tai Po Rd Tai Wai: PDhighway=secondary
5417.5617. Mei Tin Rd: PDhighway=secondary
5448. Tsuen Nam Rd, Chik Fuk St, Shing Ho Rd: DDhighway=tertiary
5692. Ma On Shan Rd: RThighway=motorway
5913. Ma On Shan Rd: RThighway=primary
5005. Ma On Shan Rd: PDhighway=secondary
5683,5281. Sai Sha Rd: DDhighway=secondary
(Sha Tin New Town P8, D16; corrected fromhighway=primary
)
5708. Ma On Shan Bypass: RThighway=primary
(Sha Tin New Town T7)
5915. Sai Sha Rd: RThighway=secondary
(corrected fromhighway=primary
)
6057. Yuen Shin Rd: PDhighway=motorway_link
(not UT)
—— Kovposch (talk) 13:45, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Recommended to use the motorway
tag only for legal expressways.
According to the laws of Hong Kong, tunnels and tunnel control areas do not belong to a separate expressway system, and their status is comparable to that of ordinary route line sections. Although it can be understood that the current situation is that some tunnel control areas are not part of the route line, can it be regarded as "ref
-free route lines", then use trunk
, and use motorroad
tags?--StarBG (talk) 04:06, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
适用于第374Q章 《道路交通(快速公路)規例》之道路范围。 Applicable to the road area of the Cap. 374Q Road Traffic (Expressway) Regulations.
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highway=* |
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motorway
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法定快速公路[1]、
連接快速公路的支路而有路牌生效的範圍則必須以
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trunk
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不屬上述motorway 描述之「香港幹線編號系統」路段 Road sections that belongs to the "Hong Kong Strategic Route Number System" that are not the above motorway description
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不屬上述 |
primary
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不屬於指定幹線唯有幹線重要性及跨區交通功能路段,亦包括連接較高規格道路(如高速公路)及一般街道的集散道路。 Road sections that do not belong to any routes but have the importance and characteristics of a trunk route for cross-district traffic, and also distributor roads connecting higher-performance roads (e.g. motorways) and ordinary streets.
以前屬幹線公路後來被剔出的道路,以及第一代幹線編號系統中的區域幹道(未被新建道路取代者),一般應屬
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secondary
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一般市區主要街道及主要郊區道路。 Ordinary major streets of urban areas and major rural roads. |
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tertiary
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一般出入社區的街道。 Ordinary streets for accessing neighbourhoods. |
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unclassified
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最低級的公共道路, |
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residential
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民居旁的街道,一般只用以通往其物業。 Streets alongside residential areas, normally used only for accessing the property. |
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living_street
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設有行人優先路牌的街道。 Streets with pedestrian legal right-of-way. ![]() |
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pedestrian
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行人專用道路。 Pedestrian-only streets. | adsdsa | |
service
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可行車的小路(包括沒有命名的屋苑通道, Minor roadways for vehicles (e.g. unamed access roads within estates / |
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track
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可行四輪車的非道路 Non-roads passable by 4-wheelers. | saddsasd |
- As I reiterated, Discovery Bay Tunnel, and Shun Long Rd, are Tunnel Area. They aren't
highway=trunk
, so your definition doesn't work. In fact, the lower deck of Lantau Link is Tunnel Area as well. — Kovposch (talk) 19:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Proposal B
Talk:Hong Kong/Transport/Road/Proposal B
—— Kovposch (talk) 12:30, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Proposal C
此部分針對討論關於次要道路及其他相關雜項。 This section focuses on classifications on minor roads and other assorted items.
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highway=* |
描述 Description | 例子 Examples | Description |
motorway
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法定快速公路[1]、
連接快速公路的支路而有路牌生效的範圍則必須以
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trunk
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不屬上述motorway 描述之「香港幹線編號系統」路段 Road sections that belongs to the "Hong Kong Strategic Route Number System" that are not the above motorway description
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asddasads |
primary
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不屬於指定幹線唯有幹線重要性及跨區交通功能路段,亦包括連接較高規格道路(如高速公路)及一般街道的集散道路。 Road sections that do not belong to any routes but have the importance and characteristics of a trunk route for cross-district traffic, and also distributor roads connecting higher-performance roads (e.g. motorways) and ordinary streets.
以前屬幹線公路後來被剔出的道路,以及第一代幹線編號系統中的區域幹道(未被新建道路取代者),一般應屬
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secondary
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一般市區主要街道及主要郊區道路。 Ordinary major streets of urban areas and major rural roads. |
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tertiary
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一般出入社區的街道。 Ordinary streets for accessing neighbourhoods. |
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A tertiary road may be one of the following: Provides the most important access to a local neighbourhood:
Connects rural neighbourhoods to a town centre or to each other:
Provides significant shortcut between secondary roads:
Has important road network purpose but are "unimportant" by themselves:
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unclassified
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最低級的公共道路, |
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Roads that cannot be classified into any other road classes should be classified as unclassified. Road conditions may be poor (e.g. in rural areas), but that is not a hard requirement. These roads are generally unremarkable.
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residential
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民居旁的街道,一般只用以通往其物業。 Streets alongside residential areas, normally used only for accessing the property. |
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Within the same residential development (e.g., the same housing estate), roads that provide access to individual buildings. This distinguishes from general technical roads classified as service. These roads may not be necessarily gated.
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living_street
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設有行人優先路牌的街道。 Streets with pedestrian legal right-of-way. ![]() |
asdasasdd | |
pedestrian
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行人專用道路。 Pedestrian-only streets. | adsdsa | |
service
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可行車的小路(包括沒有命名的屋苑通道, Minor roadways for vehicles (e.g. unamed access roads within estates / |
Roads that allow technical maneuvers. May also be roads that provide access to individual buildings within the same non-residential development.
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track
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可行四輪車的非道路 Non-roads passable by 4-wheelers. | saddsasd |
--Vectorial8192 (talk) 14:30, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- My notes on your examples for how they are reasoned by myself now:
highway=tertiary
- Pak Wan St
highway=residential
: Ddn't promote it yet, as it is a arcing"loop" serving the Estate only, and I haven't promoted other roads around it to greater thanhighway=unclassified
(Tai Hang Sai St)
- Pak Wan St
—— Kovposch (talk) 16:08, 1 July 2024 (UTC)