Talk:Riding

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Tag question. Little circular track area

I came across a thing here. It's a little circular track area where horses walk around in a circle. I guess it might be for training young horses. They walk with somebody holding a rope in the middle. But this is an outdoor pursuits centre, so maybe it's just a very little route for first time horse riders to go around in a circle. -- Harry Wood (talk) 12:27, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Provided I understood you correctly, this sounds to me like some kind of small riding ground. They are usually used for beginners where one person stands in the middle and holds/leads the horse while the beginner practices on it. I would tag those the same as large riding grounds. It could also be some kind of (manual) hot walker, but all I've seen up to now are mechanical devices. So I guess its up to you to figure out its main purpose; the tagging scheme should cover both. --Imagic (talk) 07:47, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

In french we call this Rond de longe. In english (american ?), this is called a Round pen, and Longierplatz in german. --Pyrog (talk) 18:00, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

See also

How to tag Roundpen ?

Like a Riding arena ?

Shop of equestrian equipment

Place to shoe horses

(Maréchal-ferrant in french)

The english word farrier seem to be more specific ? --Pyrog (talk) 17:48, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Place to create or repair saddles

(Bourrelier or sometime sellier or cordonnier in french)

or

Saddler in english as sellier in french or sattler in german build sattles for boats, motorbikes, cars, etc.
Bourrelier in french is specific for sattles for horses.

Is there a specific word in english ? or should we use :

--Pyrog (talk) 17:48, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Add rendering for leisure=horse_riding

See issues/2344 and Tagging list thread.

Riding hall

There is a draft Proposed_features/Riding_hall. If you want something changed please comment there. --Hufkratzer (talk) 18:54, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

horse=designated on riding routes?

Section Riding routes contains a sentence: "The tag (horse=designated) might be used to specify recommend routes for horse riding, although there is no wide consensus on this."

This sentence was initially in the introduction and unrelated to tag route=horse and was only later moved to the section for riding routes. I think it makes no sense and just confuses unnecessarily. Even without horse=designated it's obvious that a riding route (relation with route=horse) is a "recommend route for horse riding".

There are currently only 2 riding routes that have tag horse=designated:

The cited sentence hasn't been translated to other languages (German, French or Spanish) yet and I didn't see anything similar in route=horse.

Is anyone against removing this sentence from the page Riding? (Even if the sentence will be removed this will not hinder anybody to write the tag to a riding route if he thinks that this is a good idea.)

--Hufkratzer (talk) 18:44, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Place to rent donkey ?

What could we use ?

--Pyrog (talk) 16:50, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

You should not created unexpected combinations between existing tags and newly invented tags. Renderers and consumers will only see the established tags, this creates a lot of confusion and your intended information is lost. Also please provide some more information. Do you ride the donkey or do you just lead it? Is it a guided tour or do you just leave with the donkeys on your own?

Create new tags:

--Nop (talk) 17:29, 28 May 2018 (UTC) 

 Do you ride the donkey or do you just lead it? Is it a guided tour or do you just leave with the donkeys on your own?

In France, a donkey driver ("ânier") provide all these services.
leisure=donkey_riding is a good idea, but usually we don't ride donkeys, just hike with them ;-)
Also, other animals are used for hiking: mule, horse, goat, llama, dog
--Pyrog (talk) 18:22, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Horse rental

Related discussion about horse rental on the tagging list:

--Hufkratzer (talk) 10:34, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

landuse=animal_keeping, open stables, paddocks

Recently the status of tag landuse=animal_keeping has been set to abandoned. This tag is recommended here for tagging open stables, paddocks, and paddock boxes. Do we need the landuse=animal_keeping tag? Or are there better alternatives?

Here is some older discussion about such horse keeping areas, unforunately only in German: DE_talk:Reiten#Exotentags.

--Hufkratzer (talk) 11:55, 1 August 2018 (UTC)


A riding hall ist not a sports hall

A riding hall is a very specialized building and not a member of the general class "sports hall" (which is synonymous to "gym" according to its wiki page). Nobody would consider calling it a "gym" or a "sports hall". @Hufkratzer: Please revert your recent edit or show proof of previous discussion for your change. --Nop (talk) 18:09, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

I had asked here and got no response. After a while some more tennis halls, swimming halls and riding halls were tagged with leisure=sports_hall, so I included them in the proposal (see here). There were no objections about that so far. A riding hall is not more specialized than a tennis hall or a swimming hall. Do you want to make a proposal for leisure=rding_hall ot what? --Hufkratzer (talk) 18:51, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
PS: Analogous discussion in Talk:Tag:leisure=sports_hall#Riding hall and swimming hall are not sports halls --Hufkratzer (talk) 19:22, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
I am sure you are aware that adding a new tag requires a proposal or a discussion and a clear majority vote in favour of it. No response is not good enough and now you do have an objection. Consider the statement sports_hall is synonmous to "gym". Swimming and riding buildings would never be considered gyms. I believe you are about to make the same mistake that was made with highway=path: Trying to use a term in a more generic way than its actual meaning. I think this will cause horse farms and maybe spas to be mistaken for sports centers and I object to your change. I ask you again to revert it yourself. I simply propose to leave everyting as it is, building=riding_hall is good enough, there is absolutely no need to create another tag for it or force it in a misconceived generalization. --Nop (talk) 19:02, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
Answer in Talk:Tag:leisure=sports_hall#Riding hall and swimming hall are not sports halls --Hufkratzer (talk) 18:59, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Place to rent a horse-drawn carriage

How to map an horse-drawn carriage rental, for example for a wedding or for several services like rubbish collection ?

carriage:rental=* seem fine for a secondary activity (see Rental#Using_a_namespace).

--Pyrog (talk) 09:26, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Access permission for horse-drawn carriage

Which tag could be used?

Seem to be carriage.

See also:

--Pyrog (talk) 09:37, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

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