Talk:Tag:leisure=sports centre

Indoor only?

This is for indoor-only sport facilities? Outdoor pitches with multiple use (e.g. soccer and football) are not to be tagged sports_centre, correct? Dillwead 22:00, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

No, the only example given in the text is outdoor. But this is not for a single dual use pitch. It is for multiple kinds of facilities together. Like a soccer pitch and an American football pitch next to each other, maybe using the same showers (assuming the soccer pitch is for the male league too).Jbohmdk 08:46, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

commercial, gym(nasium), sports_ground

I would like to propose to specify the type of sports_centre. At the moment leisure=sports_centre is used in the context of gyms, commercial fitness_centres and areas which include many pitches and gyms. So I propose to specify those objects to for example: sports_centre=commercial for commercial facilities e.g. fitness centres

sports_centre=gym for a indoor hall

sports_centre=sports_ground for an area which may include a gym and pitches

The above possibly added 12:02, 13 July 2014‎ by U715371.

Commercial ? as in fee paid? Then use the fee tag. 'fitness' is not a sport, nor is exorcize. Indoor can be indicated by an enclosing building. Each pitch should be specified separately ... can be difficult if indoor or the satellite image is obscured. Warin61 (talk) 00:00, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Must be a sports center for different sports?

Must be a sports center for various sports, or there can be only one sport. There are sports centers just for swimming, tennis, soccer, equestrian, basketball etc.

So far I have interpreted it that several sports in a building should be. This is also described here:

• Indoor_tennis_court
• Sports hall for a school

May be we have to adjust the wiki page here again. --geozeisig (talk) 09:33, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

I think the definition lower down the leisure=pitch page is more general but still accurate description: "Sports facility covering a larger area." So, it could be a single-sport facility, or multi-sport. I think this is also implied on the leisure=sport_centre page where it says there may be a sport=* tag associated with the centre, and the value may list multiple sports. Could fix this on sports_centre by removing "range of" from the first sentence. --Neuhausr (talk) 14:33, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Single sport / single pitch sports hall

There is a discussion on the tagging list currently questioning the suitability of sports_centre for smaller, single-sport or single-pitch sports halls, of the typical size that is adjacent to schools. There are some voices recommending leisure=sports_hall for that (has some use already). That would also fit well into a scheme to use leisure=sports_centre for a campus that may contain several one or more sports halls and outdoor pitches. --Polarbear w (talk) 22:59, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

How to tag sports halls? on the tagging list. --Daniel Capilla (talk) 00:09, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Ski resorts also?

Is this applicable to ski resorts? It is already used that way it seems in Sweden and Norway. I suggest either changing the definition or that we find another way to solve it.--PangoSE (talk) 21:08, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Riding arena (outdoor)

It should not be recommended to tag a single riding arena with leisure=sports_centre or with leisure=horse_riding, a riding arena should be tagged with leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian (see also Riding and Tag:leisure=pitch#Riding_arena). This is the established tagging for riding arenas (currently ~23k uses). The araa that contains a riding arena can possibly be tagged with leisure=horse_riding as described in horse_riding and in riding_hall. If the extension of this area is unknown a separate node can be used to map it (as described in Tag:leisure=horse_riding#Tagging), not the riding arena itself, which is only the area where the horses are ridden. See also comments in PR osm carto --Hufkratzer (talk) 23:25, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Addition of proposed tag leisure=sports_hall to this page

I don't understand why leisure=sports_hall was added in 5 different places on this page. The documentation does not make it clear when leisure=sports_hall should be used instead of leisure=sports_centre; the whole "indoor" table was edited to mention sports_hall as an option for every single indoor sports_centre feature. This suggests the new tag is just a synonym in many cases. There is no definition, just frequent restatement of the term "sports hall" which is not used in my dialect of American English at all. It's also only been used 340 times. --Jeisenbe (talk) 13:57, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

You are correct, the alternative was given overly often. The examples should focus on the cases that are centres. As for the definition of sports hall we should continue on the respective page.--Polarbear w (talk) 14:30, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Would be ok for me. Then we should remove the entry for "Indoor riding arena" completely here because it has no centre character itself. An indoor riding arena is almost always just a part of a larger facility (which usually also contains outdoor riding arenas and other outdoor space for the horses, see leisure=horse_riding). --Hufkratzer (talk) 21:29, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Centre character?

A section was added that suggests using sports_hall or other tags because: "For single sports halls, the suitability of leisure=sports_centre has been questioned, in particular when the facility has no centre character." There isn't anything else on the page that defines a sports_centre as having a certain character. The definition is just "a distinct facility where sports take place within an enclosed area. It can be a building (indoor sports centre), just outside (outdoor sports centre) or contain indoor and outdoor sports features mixed together." This matches the dictionary definition in Cambridge online: "a building where you can play different sports." Perhaps there is a different meaning in another language that is causing confusion here?

There is no definition for sports_hall yet; the only British English definition that I found was almost identical to that for "sports centre" in Cambridge. Collins, Sports hall: "a place where people take part in sports"

In American English we don't really use the terms "sports centre" or "sports hall" at all, rather "gymnasium", so I've just been using the definition on this page. I don't see why sports_centre is inappropriate for a single building, unless of course the building is already inside of a larger sports_center area (multipolygon or closed way), in which case it doesn't need any additional tagging other than building=*. --Jeisenbe (talk) 21:56, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

"... in which case it doesn't need any additional tagging other than building=*". Once I thought that too, but I was advised differently, see here ff and there (bottom). --Hufkratzer (talk) 08:41, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

The discussion that you linked was about tagging a building as building=sports_hall + sport=* - it's true that this alone isn't ideal, if there are no other feature tags. But if the building is already inside of a leisure=sports_centre area then it's clearly part of the sports_centre. Similarly, all buildings in a amenity=school are not tagged as amenity=school_hall because the geometry of the surrounding area feature is enough to show that they are part of a functioning school. --Jeisenbe (talk) 11:38, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Your school comparison fails since in the sports_centre case, the individual sports_hall(s) can serve different sports, like having a rowing hall, a climbing hall, an ice skating hall and so on. Using leisure=sports_hall, I can combine that with specifying the sport=climbing etc.--Polarbear w (talk) 10:47, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Why enclosed ?

«within an enclosed area»

What the point of removing every sports center from the definition which are not enclosed ? Enclosed area can be map with other features like barrier=* or maybe just a subtag.--Florimondable (talk) 17:29, 3 June 2020 (UTC) @Florimondable: which valid uses are not covered by this? Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 08:36, 9 May 2022 (UTC)`

Country Clubs

Would this be a good tag for country clubs? Many seem to be tagged as golf courses when they actually contain various sports such as golf, tennis, swimming, etc. For example Milwaukee Country Club.

Usually a country club is mainly a golf course, at least in my (western USA) understanding. Perhaps you can map the area of the golf course as a leisure=golf_course and the other features as one or more leisure=sports_centre features. --Jeisenbe (talk) 01:35, 31 July 2020 (UTC)