Talk:Tag:man made=street cabinet

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Additional tag values

How would I go about adding more values, such as the waste cabinets? Javbw (talk) 11:01, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

You can explain them here with one or two photos and they should be added if they don't get any objection. Fanfouer (talk) 12:32, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Waste management

Front View
side View

two different "Gomi Stations" in Japan. The cabinets are permanent (not dumpsters or cans), immobile, and long-lived (these are probably 15 years old or so). While they are for public garbage collection, they are not for general use by the public -so it is not a public trash can. Only people living in the area designated for each station may place their residential garbage inside. Similar to the mail distribution box, They are used as a transfer point for non-technical material. There is one station for roughly 20 houses or one large apartment building, so they appear with the same frequency as the other cabinets throughout Japan (read: there are thousands and thousands of them in each region). Javbw (talk)

I think street_cabinet=waste is appropriate, thank you for pictures. Do you see any additional tag to add to such an example ? Fanfouer (talk) 08:15, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
nothing beyond the standard operator tag. Usually there is no ref or other name given to them at all. Perhaps sugeest to use with access=designated? Only designated people can use it? Because there is no question as to which one is "yours."


Naming

On naming of newly voted man_made=street_cabinet

A few old & new proposals for actual naming are:

man_made=street_cabinet, technical_cabinet, outdoor_cabinet, cabinet

Althio (talk)

  • man_made=street_cabinet

is implicitly rejecting 'countryside cabinet' or cabinets in motorways, parks, fields, train stations, airports and so on.

Yeah I would rather agree.
We also have the highway=* tag to describe one and each road, not only high-speed ways between major cities. Fanfouer (talk) 12:32, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
  • man_made=technical_cabinet

is quite generic. Is it excluding any kind of non-technical cabinet? I guess containers and collecting points are out of the scope with other tagging schemes, aren't they?

I agree on this point, any kind of non-technical cabinet won't be covered Fanfouer (talk) 12:32, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
  • man_made=outdoor_cabinet

is also quite generic. Is it excluding any kind of cabinet?

It is excluding all indoor cabinets, especially when they're underground, in tunnels or whatever.
We also have a generic tag to describe features' location : location=* Fanfouer (talk) 12:32, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
  • man_made=cabinet

is very generic, can serve as basis for a lot of equipment and applications, can be refined with namespace/subkey.

That's the simplest indeed.
If a refinement must be done, I would choose this one. Fanfouer (talk) 12:32, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
I guess it's kind of late for this, but I would have thought utility_cabinet or service_cabinet would be more appropriate than street_cabinet.--Rassilon (talk) 01:33, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

differentiate telco between copper cable and optical transmission

I think it would be desirable to distinguish optical and copper cable cabinets. Anyone already doing this? --Dieterdreist (talk) 16:18, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Recently reviewed proposal now allows to do so with telecom:medium=* on properly tagged cabinets. Fanfouer (talk) 23:11, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Electric / gas / water meter

Mention how to tag a simple electric / gas / water meter.

It might be the only thing for miles there in the desert, and thus worthy of a tag. Jidanni (talk) 21:08, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi, sorry for late answer. If such device is located ina cabinet, it should get the recommended tagging man_made=street_cabinet and so on...
As far as i remember, we don't have any recommended tags for power/water metter currently. It still needs to be defined, but you can yet describe the cabinet Fanfouer (talk) 15:46, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
Well it would have to be something like cabinet=none... Jidanni (talk) 04:32, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Cabinets where there is no street

Railways have several technical cabinets along them, which obviously are not street-related. There are also technical cabinets near runways for airport management, and probably a lot more situations. Some above-mentioned values proposed for man_made (for example man_made=utility_cabinet with utility=* complement) looks quite interesting to generalize this kind of object for which building=service does not fit: no built walls but a factory-made box usually metal-based. The idea dates back from 2014 but it seems like no decision has been voted so far. Teuxe (talk) 13:29, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

man_made=street_cabinet is already accepted as used outside "street" in practice. The naming is a historic relic, and a hint to what it is typically. Tag:man_made=street_cabinet#Detailed_mapping_for_cabinets
man_made=utility_cabinet doesn't rigorously solve street_cabinet=transport_management (itself yet a vague term). It's not a utility=* . There's already enough trouble with "abuse" from utility=loudspeaker , utility=highway , etc.
—— Kovposch (talk) 05:35, 13 October 2024 (UTC)