Proposal talk:Education tag

education=tutoring, office=tutoring

What is the difference between office=tutoring and education=tutoring? Roadrenner (talk) 21:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

office=tutoring is described at Tag:office=tutoring. I think it's supposed to be for small outfits, like for someone who offers tutoring at their home. Or maybe it's a duplicate tag and should be incorporated in this proposal? Quincylvania (talk) 21:53, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

In general I also think it's a good idea to rework the education amenities. However, for the two tutoring tags, I think it's more of a duplication, because they're not really distinguishable. I would drop one of them. --Roadrenner (talk) 01:53, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Kindergarten?

Great proposal!

I wonder though about education=kindergarten? Are they a "school", or a child-minding centre? --Fizzie41 (talk) 21:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

education=kindergarten is just a carryover from amenity=kindergarten. It has different meanings in different places. People have strong opinions on this and this proposal does not aim to resolve it. Quincylvania (talk) 21:53, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Redefinition and lack of justification

There's not even any reasoning behind changing *=college to undergradute level. Instead if I have to guess what you want, it would be better to create a new eg education=graduate_school , university=* *=graduate_school / *=research (vs *=teaching ) , or do something with amenity=research_institute to show they confer masters and doctorate degrees.
—— Kovposch (talk) 04:43, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Engrained issues for what's in trades and arts

amenity=trade_school is ambiguous for what level it is. It should be relegated under *=school , amenity=college , or *=training . Talk:Tag:amenity=trade_school#Deprecate_this_tag?
It should be emphasized and clarified that amenity=music_school , amenity=language_school , amenity=dancing_school , and amenity=flight_school , etc could correspond to either *=training or amenity=college depending on the programmes offered. Can refer to isced:level=* for some ideas. Eg training=aviation should only teach flying, while "aviation academies" offering different certificates and diplomas should be amenity=college . Also note Music_school "can also be applied to institutions of higher education " for *=university . Cf Talk:Tag:amenity=language_school#Difference_from_amenity=college?
—— Kovposch (talk) 05:00, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Lecturing vs Excercising vs Exams

For amenity=driving_school , there's amenity=driver_training which may be far away, close by, adjacent, or inside. Also, there can be dedicated exam centers and courses. Proposal:Education 2.0 had education=exercise_area , and education_service:testing=* , in different levels.
—— Kovposch (talk) 05:09, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Tutors vs Prep

First of all, office=tutoring is lacking an explanation for its treatment. What's the "unchanged" meaning, and the difference with education=tutoring ? Is it redefined to back offices only, where no teaching occurs?
To be more precise, 2 dimensions can actually be distinguished in the similarly interchangeable terms. At least this can be seen in Asia.

• Ratio
  • Tutors: Giving individual advice and guidance to small groups, or individual
  • Lecturers: Teaching to large classes
• Purpose
  • Schoolwork in general
  • School level certification, or entrance exams
  • Professional qualifications

"Tutoring" often refers to individual or small groups for schoolwork. Test "prep school" is aimed towards the level or entrance exams, or even professional qualifications, and it's often mainly a class lecturing and testing format (possibly supplemented by tutorial sessions, etc). At least Japan has 学習塾 , and 予備校 , plus many more categorization in them.
—— Kovposch (talk) 05:26, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

amenity=dojo

I would delete this proposal, which is outside the scope of education. For me, the Dojo is about building, not activity. Otherwise, it's a good proposal. I hope that one day we'll be able to switch everything over to education. Gendy54 (talk) 12:54, 24 November 2024 (UTC)