Talk:Editors
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Tabular list of editors
We seem to have moved to a tabular list of editors, using the User:TTTBot as seen on the Software pages. That's a fairly sweeping change to a long-standing key wiki page. A little explanation here would be good.
Is it an improvement? One thing which doesn't work so well now, is that Potlatch and JOSM are not clearly shown at the top of the list. Perhaps in theory I'm making a terribly subjective judgement and all editor software should be treated equally. ...in practice Potlatch and JOSM are the primary two options for full OpenStreetMap editing functionality and to obscure that information is confusing to site visitors.
For now I'm going to reinstate the short descriptions of Potlatch and JOSM at the top of the page. Another idea might be to bring in some user agent API usage stats into the table, and then order by that by default. This would bring Potlatch and JOSM to the top (comfortably to the top. All other editors have insignificant numbers of users by comparison)
-- Harry Wood 12:38, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
- I had removed Potlatch 2 because I thought it was being phased out, but chatting to RichardF on IRC just now, it turns out he's still keen to see it listed there and it's still under active development "it's not in hyperactive development, but in the next past it's got editor-imagery-index support, tag memory, improvements to the geometry adjust feature, a floating imagery window, a tasks palette, and bookmarks". Also users on Internet Explorer get shown Potlatch 2 rather than iD. -- Harry Wood (talk) 11:24, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
I propose to delete the navigation bar containing help, upload, about, browsing and this page. Please discuss at the Upload page. --Cantho (talk) 05:58, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- I updated help menu with your pages How to contribute, Contribute map data so they all accessible within few clicks via tabs. Xxzme (talk) 19:39, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
"Upload to OSM"
The table has an "Upload to OSM" column which is green for all editors. Is this column really necessary? What sort of editor does not support uploading to OSM? :D --Contrapunctus (talk) 07:51, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- In theory editor may produce file that must be opened and uploaded with for example JOSM. But it is a bit silly, I would support removing this column Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 08:02, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- QGIS currently not support uploading to OSM. But it is possible to export data from QGIS, convert and upload by script (as for import). Something B (talk) 10:30, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Reduce top three to top two or replace Potlatch 2?
Is Potlatch 2 really something that should be mentioned as one of top three editors? Vespucci would be better as sole general-purpose editor on Android (but it has no heavy use) Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 10:34, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- Top editors should be defined by the amount of use (any recent figures?). Mobile editors could be s separate category. --Andrew (talk) 12:00, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- Editor usage stats has https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editor_usage_stats#by_number_of_edits has Potlatch 2 as the third editor (it surprised me), but usage 10 times lower than iD and 30 times lower than JOSM (what is not surprising to me). Go Map!! is a top iOS editor, Vespucci top Android editor (you can order by other metrics, but this seems the best). I would support mentioning Vespucci and Go Map!! (and may add them). I support mentioning also StreetComplete but I am unlikely add it as I am more than a bit biased here Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 12:12, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- I ended adding StreetComplete, if you think that it was wrong to do this - feel free to revert me (I am biased here due to being involved in SC development) Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 09:52, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- Editor usage stats has https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editor_usage_stats#by_number_of_edits has Potlatch 2 as the third editor (it surprised me), but usage 10 times lower than iD and 30 times lower than JOSM (what is not surprising to me). Go Map!! is a top iOS editor, Vespucci top Android editor (you can order by other metrics, but this seems the best). I would support mentioning Vespucci and Go Map!! (and may add them). I support mentioning also StreetComplete but I am unlikely add it as I am more than a bit biased here Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 12:12, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- I think the main list should continue to mention Potlatch 2 as long as it's one of the options in the dropdown on osm.org, but that's mainly because the comparison table is intimidating to new users who just want to learn more about the options available on the site. To me, a gallery like the ones at Android and iOS would be better; users could delve into each article to learn more rather than try to comparison-shop based on a few characteristics that require fuller explanation anyways. – Minh Nguyễn 💬 17:21, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
Damage to map accident comparison
I wonder if there's ever been a study for a damage to map accident comparison?
Which editor is more likely to cause the user to leave accidental damages to the map.
Yes, different than vandalism.
"The Editor Safety Board has determined that XXX editor is 50% more likely to cause users to accidentally mess up parts of the map then YYY editor."
"The most common problem seems to be entire buildings, such as schools, or items such as rivers, thrown out of place. All without the user realizing it. Apparently the user is not aware that s/he has selected an item and drags it around. Or just single nodes misplaced, like a jog in a street... "
Anyway a link to such a future study might be useful at the bottom of this Editors page here. Jidanni (talk) 10:11, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Split the editor table
After dropping Basic Auth and OAuth 1, it seems that half of the editors on this list can no longer upload edits. How about allocating old editors to a separate table? TrickyFoxy (talk) 12:46, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Looks like there already is a list of discontinued editors. I just moved Maps.me there.--Map per wiki (talk) 18:02, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- I revert the deletion MAPS.ME. They recently fixed the editing https://osmcha.org/?filters=%7B%22editor%22%3A%5B%7B%22label%22%3A%22MAPS.ME%22%2C%22value%22%3A%22MAPS.ME%22%7D%5D%7D
- Oh, thank you. I missed that.--Map per wiki (talk) 18:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- I revert the deletion MAPS.ME. They recently fixed the editing https://osmcha.org/?filters=%7B%22editor%22%3A%5B%7B%22label%22%3A%22MAPS.ME%22%2C%22value%22%3A%22MAPS.ME%22%7D%5D%7D